Red dots in jake

jonase 2017-03-09 11:30:57 UTC #1

Hello,

I searched this forum and the net overall but coulnd find this mentioned besides as a side note in another thread.

I ordered 2 boxes of Jake in januari. It seems like the meals in the second box contains som red particles that wasnt in the first box or in my previous orders.

Any info about what this might be?

outlier 2017-03-09 13:14:47 UTC #2

lycopene

Frank_Official 2017-03-13 11:27:03 UTC #3

Hi @jonase, those red particles you notices are indeed lycopene.

Lycopene is the natural pigment that gives (some) fruits and vegetables their red color. Jake provides lycopene since a product update about a year ago. Lycopene lumps together a bit, which causes the small red dots when you first pour water in.

In our body, lycopene works as a very effective antioxidant, protecting our cells from the damaging effects of oxidation. You can read more about lycopene in this .pdf, you'll find lycopene all the way down.

jonase 2017-03-13 12:05:18 UTC #4

Thank you.

I believe you but i am not super happy about the inconstency/quality control where some pouches has a ton of these, and some none visible at all. Makes me wonder what more is inconsistent portioned between meals. Hopefully not some of the vitamins that can be quite dangerous to overdose

Frank_Official 2017-03-15 16:59:26 UTC #5

I understand your concern. The difference in visible red particles between batches is due to different sources of lycopene used. The lycopene used in the current batch clumps together a bit more, causing the red dots in your shake. After shaking, those dots will have disappeared as they dissolve in your shake.

In this regard, it's be possible that future batches will again have less visible red dots. In that case, the powder itself will be a bit more red/pink. The mixing method used does not allow inconsistent portioning of any of the ingredients. In this regard, you shouldn't find significant inconsistencies in - red particles of - shakes from the same batch.

jonase 2017-03-16 15:42:52 UTC #6

There is a huge difference also between bags from The same batch. Some have no visible red dots, some have a lot

MarLund 2017-03-17 14:15:32 UTC #7

@jonase I also noticed the amount of visible red dots change, and tried to evaluate which causes the difference in visible red dots. When the pouches are from the same batch, there should not be any difference I thought.

Seems like it differs with the amount of water you add, less water means more red dots, and if you shake it and let it stand for a few minutes, the red dots also become more visible. Pretty logical, but would be great if it could be confirmed by a Jake member

jonase 2017-03-17 14:33:06 UTC #8

Yeah it varies from pouch to pouch from the same batch.

I always use the same amount of water, filling the whole shaker.

I also notice that it becomes more visible if it sits for a while, but i have also let shakes sit for long periods of time with almost no red dots visible.

So my conclusion is that sadly Jake cant guarantee consistency of their products. Which makes me not want to put my health in their hands

Frank_Official 2017-03-20 15:57:50 UTC #9

Thank you @jonase for your critical thinking. The manufacturer that produces Jake performs a wide scope of checks for consistency and quality. Until now, our product has always been consistent in its nutritional value and quality. Although the amount of visible red dots due to lycopene differs, I would like to stress that the amount of lycopene in our shakes is always the same.

The interaction of lycopene with its surroundings and in particular water influences the visibility of the red dots. You'll notice no or hardly any specs within the powder and will notice that as soon as you add water the specs will start to 'bleed' and become visible. We'd like to perform tests on the pouches you've received. If you will, please return the remaining packages to us. Of course, you will be reimbursed for the meals as well as shipping.

AnjaVijf 2017-03-21 14:53:30 UTC #10

To be honest the red dots in the shake dont bother me. I might be a bit naive but I would find it strange if Jake can even sell its product if it is not consistent in it's quality. If the content of the product is different than the product describtion, as far as I know you are not permitted to sell your product in the EU.

Good questions though, and certainly worth looking at!!!