I would appreciate to see a changelog

Evert 2017-12-14 13:23:47 UTC #1

You know, like when programmers publish an update of their open-source package, they publish it with a changelog so you can easily read about all that's changed (which bugs were fixed, which features were added or removed).

I just now bought the new banana flavor and I noticed that besides the flavor you also changed the structure of the shake. The previous shake (when you still had only one flavor) was thicker than this one. So I'm wondering what more has changed. Did you remove or add any chemicals (that weren't for the taste) and if so, why?

Not that I wanna critisize or anything like that, I'm just curious to learn more about what's healthy and what isn't and I trust you guys more than myself when it comes to researching that topic.

I noticed you added a bit more vitamin E and B12, why?
You removed some magnesium and iron, why?
What else did you change?

Jolande 2017-12-14 14:41:42 UTC #2

Thank you for sharing i like Jake because it is thick so when it is thinner now thats not so good.

JetroP 2017-12-18 15:22:43 UTC #3

this is a really good suggestion

Evert 2017-12-18 15:33:31 UTC #4

The difference isn't huge though, so I would still recommend you to try it.

Jolande 2017-12-18 15:46:12 UTC #5

Thanks for your advise. I will.

Frank_Official 2017-12-28 17:54:14 UTC #6

I agree. There's a bit of an overhaul coming for the blog/articles area on the website. We're including an extensive description of the current product, and we'll add an overview of changes compared to earlier versions of the products.

For now, I'll comment on the few differences that came with the addition of Banana and Forest Fruit. Please note that Oaty Vanilla hasn't changed. These are the differences between the new flavours and oaty vanilla:

Fats: total fats and saturated fats have stayed the same. We've lowered the omega 6 in Jake Light to 8.2g/meal to lower the omega 3:omega 6 ratio from 9 to 7.5. The ratio for Original is still 5 at 1.6g of omega 3 and 8g of omega 6. The ratio of Sports is still 6 at 1.3g of omega 3 and 7.6g of omega 6.
Salt: lowered to 1.3 gram/meal in all three versions. Bringing the total daily intake of Light and Original to the 3.75g/day AI as set by the IOM. Sports packs 5g/day, which is in line with the relatively high energy intake and falls within the common target intakes of either 5 or 6g per day (WHO, SINU, HHS). The EFSA's guideline is currently being updated and we've therefore not used it here.
Vitamin B12: increased to 150%/day in all three versions. Vitamin B12 deficiency is rather common and has a higher prevalence amongst vegetarians/vegans. We've slightly increased vitamin B12 to 4µg/day, in accordance with the recently updated EFSA RI and ahead of more comprehensive updates of all the products.

Furthermore, you can find small changes in the amounts of chloride, vitamin E, phosphor and iron, in the versions Light and Sports, as the differences between Light, Original and Sports have been straightened out and now conform with Original.

Benny 2017-12-29 10:02:03 UTC #7

I'm curious about the coming update. I was looking for the omega 3s and omega 6s but they're not mentioned on the nutrition sheets. Seeing that they ARE there, why not put them on there? Omega 3/6 are (perceived as) healthy and some products build their entire branding around omega3/6.

Daniel 2018-05-10 16:22:07 UTC #8

How was the the omega 6 / omega 3 ratio chosen?

"Several sources of information suggest that human beings evolved on a diet with a ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 essential fatty acids (EFA) of approximately 1 whereas in Western diets the ratio is 15/1-16.7/1. Western diets are deficient in omega-3 fatty acids, and have excessive amounts of omega-6 fatty acids compared with the diet on which human beings evolved and their genetic patterns were established. "

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The importance of the ratio of omega-6/omega-3 essential fatty acids.

AP Simopoulos, Biomedicine & pharmacotherapy = Biomedecine & pharmacotherapie, Oct 2002

Several sources of information suggest that human beings evolved on a diet with a ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 essential fatty acids (EFA) of approximately 1 whereas in Western diets the ratio is 15/1-16.7/1. Western diets are deficient in omega-3 fatty acids, and have excessive amounts of omega-6 fatty acids compared with the diet on which human beings evolved and their genetic patterns were established. Excessive amounts of omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) and a very high omega-6/omega-3 ratio, as is found in today's Western diets, promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases, whereas increased levels of omega-3 PUFA (a low omega-6/omega-3 ratio) exert suppressive effects. In the secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease, a ratio of 4/1 was associated with a 70% decrease in total mortality. A ratio of 2.5/1 reduced rectal cell proliferation in patients with colorectal cancer, whereas a ratio of 4/1 with the same amount of omega-3 PUFA had no effect. The lower omega-6/omega-3 ratio in women with breast cancer was associated with decreased risk. A ratio of 2-3/1 suppressed inflammation in patients with rheumatoid arthritis, and a ratio of 5/1 had a beneficial effect on patients with asthma, whereas a ratio of 10/1 had adverse consequences. These studies indicate that the optimal ratio may vary with the disease under consideration. This is consistent with the fact that chronic diseases are multigenic and multifactorial. Therefore, it is quite possible that the therapeutic dose of omega-3 fatty acids will depend on the degree of severity of disease resulting from the genetic predisposition. A lower ratio of omega-6/omega-3 fatty acids is more desirable in reducing the risk of many of the chronic diseases of high prevalence in Western societies, as well as in the developing countries, that are being exported to the rest of the world.

In other words, why not use an omega 6 / omega 3 ratio of 1 (if most of what we eat has too much omega 6 anyway)?