Healthier than food?

[Raigo]

Healthier than food? That's a bold statement. How do you back it up? Do you add syntetic vitamins or anything syntetic to your products? I'm very intrested in your product, but I generally eat a very healthy and palanced meals. According to your statement it would be as healthy or even healthier to eat your product instead of real food.

[Jolande]

You are right. Jake is for example a good thing when you travel and there is only fastfood around.
Or you cannot eat breakfast but you don't mind a liquid one. Jake is better then taking something that is not good for you, but never better then healthy fresh food.

[veggiegirl]

Why? What is real food? How is Jake not real?

And something to consider, some vitamins like vitamin D, B5, B6, folic acid and B12 are better absorbed by the body when they're in synthetic/pill-form.

[veggiegirl]

Never better? Would you say eating 2kgs of brocolli is healthier than a meal of Jake? Would it be healthier to eat peanutbutter chicken with a side of cucumber? Is the average UK meal healthier than a meal of Jake? What is so special about 'fresh' food?

[Raigo]

Compared to your average western diet, there is no doubt that jakefood is healthier. I just prefer natural, organic and healthy food. I'm looking for a meal replacement that meets those terms. When it comes to synthetic vitamins then there is too little research done on long term effects and the research I have red is definitely not positive. As humans we are not evolved to eat synthetic foods, so they are likely to have an ill effect on our system. But when you stay in moderation you should be fine. As I said, I just prefer natural. And peanut butter, chicken(breast) and cucumber are very healthy.

[veggiegirl]

As humans we are not evolved to eat synthetic food

Synthetic foods are made especially for humans. That sounds like a better start to me than something that has evolved by coincidence and which may try to protect itself with all kinds of poisons, that have e.g. been (partially) selected out by farmers in the past centuries or are simply cooked out as we do with e.g. potatoes.

And peanut butter, chicken(breast) and cucumber are very healthy.

When and if they fit your needs. If you're overweight and on a caloric surplus, eating peanut butter would very likely not be healthy at all. Again an overly simplistic view.

When it comes to synthetic vitamins then there is too little research done on long-term effects and the research I have red is definitely not positive.

Says who? Not the WHO for one. Also not the EFSA, who control which substances can be added to foods in the EU and who would definitely not allow any dangerous substances to be added to food. They assess thousands of studies before they reach their scientific opinions and allow something on the European market. Here's an assessment of synthetic vitamin E.

But you've concluded that there wasn't enough research right? Read your own research and crafted your opinion. How many research articles did you read, couple of thousand?

[Raigo]

Whatever. I'm not here to argue. Everybody has their own perspective and beliefs, thus making this argument useless at most parts.
As I said, I just prefer natural food.

[Emilitoo]

I guess you could've expected some discussion posting that here @Raigo. Based on my feeling, I would also say that a fresh plate of vegetables should be healthier than Jake, but I must admit that I don't know why. It would be nice to read more about it on the website @Jake. There's plenty of knowledge, seeing the answers posted on this forum and on the ads.

[Evert]

I wonder what synthetic vitamins are as opposed to natural vitamins. As in how do they differ on a molecular level? Aren't they exactly the same molecule?

@veggiegirl I am in love with your replies. So knowledgeable, such valid reasoning.

[veggiegirl]

Thank you

[NXS]

There definitely are differences between different sources of vitamins and minerals and one can be better than the other. It's just not at all that natural = better. Sometimes, the synthetic and natural molecules are identical, sometimes a certain synthetic vitamin is better than another synthetic source of the same vitamin, or natural X > synthetic X or the other way around. Or only under certain circumstances, or in certain combinations.

It's complicated. But knowing that iodisation of salt has increased the IQ points of certain population groups by about 15 points, I'll have some synthetic minerals anytime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect