Daily proteins intake

[Jim]

Hi everyone and all Jake's crews,
I have this question about the amount of proteins in Jake. I read everywhere that it should stay around 1g/kg on average and that too much of proteins intake may lead kidneys and liver problems. Also, I read that if veggie proteins are taken to the count, you can up the intake of some 25% more. Even so, 120gr (or 160gr for the Sport version) daily intake sounds pretty exagerated. Also – as a side note – fats seems to be little scarce.

Can you explain this? Thx!!

[Luke]

too much of proteins intake may lead kidneys and liver problems

The studies that suggest this are solely based on animal proteins. There is no evidence that a high protein, plant based diet causes these issues.

[Mat_Phillips]

Protein is protein. The body does not care where it came from.

[Jim]

That doesn't explain the amount of protein they put in Jake's recipe. I've read nowhere suggestions for that much, whether it comes from animals or plants.

[Dominik]

The thing is -- I have Jake precisely because it has very nice protein amounts inside. And I guess many others here do as well. My personal thinking; I'm not a doctor or anything, this is just my conclusion from reading a lot:

• When trying to lose weight a high protein intake prevents muscle reduction (this is especially the case if you go 100% Jake Light)
• When doing lots sport it's a non-issue as well, recommendations are higher in those scenarios, just don't combine with Alcohol (not a good idea anyway when trying to get some training effect)
• In daily life I perhaps have one or max two Jake's a day. I typically don't get the protein in other meals; a breakfast here in central Europe is a very carb-focused thing, just as any vegetarian dish / Pizza / Pasta is. Even typical things like a "Wiener Schnitzel" won't give you much protein, so unless you have a good expensive steak I see the normal diet being way too carby

[Antoine]

I concur with Dominik. The amount of protein in Jakes is precisely why I'm loving my Jakes.

[CTConnolly86]

Do you really read that everywhere? Can you provide your most reliable source for that? I've heard similar stories, but when I checked it always turns out that there's no upper limit. Just a limit where the body doesn't need more protein as building blocks and simply starts using it as fuel.

[AnjaVijf]

I also love Jake for the amount of proteins in it. I go the gym mostly 5 times a week and a normal diet does not give you the necessary protein to work with. A solution would be to work with protein powders and such, but with Jake Sports that is not as big of a requirement. If I remember correctly, a too high protein consumption can only lead to problems if you have an underlying liver or kidney disease. Too high protein consumption is almost never a sole reason for developing these problems.

[outlier]

Yes, Jake has a lot of protein, 120g per day, but it's competitors have even more. Huel and Queal both have 147g, Jimmy Joy 135g. The only one with a lower protein intake is Mana, 104g per day. The problem of Jake is packaging, making a smaller portion requires quite bothersome dealing with the powder.

I just wonder how much of protein can body absorb at once, because the additional protein probably just burdens the digestion system and kidneys.

Even when I was trying to build some muscles, I was told that the recommendation is around 1.4g per kg of weight. I don't understand why now everybody goes overhead with the amount of protein. My understanding is that a significant portion of people using powdered food want to lose weight so they want to avoid fat. But for others I assume it would be fine to have more fat and less protein. It is hard to develop a product that fits everybody.

[Nico]

Interesting read guys. Just found this article, which calculated a maximum amount of protein intake per day.

Comes down to a maximum of 176 gram per day, which makes all the shakes well within the maximum limit. The biggest problem with a too high protein consumption results from problems with your liver, not your kidneys, where your liver cannot process all the excess nitrogen into urea, which eventually can have very serious consequences.

Proteins up unto this level which are not used by the body are broken down and excreted without a problem, healthy individuals can even take more protein, its not a strict border. In any case, I think that the proteins in Jake are fine, but there are certainly not too many

[outlier]

Interesting. Should not the number be dependent on one's weight? I have always heard protein intake being discussed in grams per kg of weight.

[Jim]

yes it is. @Nico provided an interesting article up here with some calculation in it.